RCRacing.com is for sale, serious inquires only please. Contact Dennis.
 
RCRacing.com
 
Found 6365 Messages   Previous Set of Pages 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 | 22 | 23 | 24 | 25 | 26 | 27 | 28 | 29 | 30 | 31 | 32 | 33 | 34 | 35 | 36 | 37 | 38 | 39 | 40 | 41 | 42 | 43 | 44 | 45 | 46 | 47 | 48 | 49 | 50 | 51 | 52 | 53 | 54 | 55 | 56 | 57 | 58 | 59 | 60 | 61 | 62 | 63 | 64 | 65 | 66 | 67 | 68 | 69 | 70 | 71 | 72 | 73 | 74 | 75 | 76 | 77 | 78 | 79 | 80 | 81 | 82 | 83 | 84 | 85 | 86 | 87 | 88 | 89 | 90 | 91 | 92 | 93 | 94 | 95 | 96 | 97 | 98 | 99 | 100 | 101 | 102 | 103 | 104 | 105 | 106 | 107 | 108 | 109 | 110 | 111 | 112 | 113 | 114 | 115 | 116 | 117 | 118 | 119 | 120 | 121 | 122 | 123 | 124 | 125 | 126 | 127 | 128 | 129 | 130 | 131 | 132 | 133 | 134 | 135 | 136 | 137 | 138 | 139 | 140 | 141 | 142 | 143 | 144 | 145 | 146 | 147 | 148 | 149 | 150 | 151 | 152 | 153 | 154 | 155 | 156 | 157 | 158 | 159 | 160 | 161 | 162 | 163 | 164 | 165 | 166 | 167 | 168 | 169 | 170 | 171 | 172 | 173 | 174 | 175 | 176 | 177 | 178 | 179 | 180 | 181 | 182 | 183 | 184 | 185 | 186 | 187 | 188 | 189 | 190 | 191 | 192 | 193 | 194 | 195 | 196 | 197 | 198 | 199 | 200 | 201 | 202 | 203 | 204 | 205 | 206 | 207 | 208 | 209 | 210 | 211 | 212 | 213 | 214 | 215 | 216 | 217 | 218 | 219 | 220 | 221 | 222 | 223 | 224 | 225 | 226 | 227 | 228 | 229 | 230 | 231 | 232 | 233 | 234 | 235 | 236 | 237 | 238 | 239 | 240 | 241 | 242 | 243 | 244 | 245 | 246 | 247 | 248 | 249 | 250 | 251 | 252 | 253 | 254 | 255 | 256 | 257 | 258 | 259 | 260 | 261 | 262 | 263 | 264 | 265 | 266 | 267 | 268 | 269 | 270 | 271 | 272 | 273 | 274 | 275 | 276 | 277 | 278 | 279 | 280 | 281 | 282 | 283 | 284 | 285 | 286 | 287 | 288 | 289 | 290 | 291 | 292 | 293 | 294 | 295 | 296 | 297 | 298 | 299 | 300 | 301 | 302 | 303 | 304 | 305 | 306 | 307 | 308 | 309 | 310 | 311 | 312 | 313 | 314 | 315 | 316 | 317 | 318 | 319 Next Set of Pages
 Posted: Jul-12-2011 12:42PM
Total posts: 11711
Last post: Jun 14, 2020
Member since:
I am just happy to have a place to race at!!!!

Traction is a matter of throttle control.. the guys who have offroad skills have an advantage. as it takes throttle control to negotiate any surface.

If you notice the ones that have an issue do not run offroad. Offroad is always looking for grip. Onroad only racers assumes grip should be there.

A word of advice if you can.. onroaders try your hand at offroad. you may hate it because you'll be looking for grip.. but you will learn not to pull full throttle all the time and trigger control.

Regardless.. like we have in 1:1 racing.. the track is the same for everyone.. conditions change and you need to adapt. If you want regularity eat prunes. if you want to challenge your skills adapt your tuning, and driving skills that's what make you successful.

Badboy..2011
Bring a new racer to the track! Help grow RC in Northern California!


Badboy.
 Posted: Jul-12-2011 12:04PM
ABR
Total posts: 2466
Last post: Jan 5, 2016
Member since:May 14, 2006

 

 Jeeze....so if the traction is good Eric is a traction guru, and if its bad its Kevins fault? From what I understand Eric was experimenting with track prep and it didnt come out right. Lets move on without the innuendo and consider it lesson learned.



 




 


 Posted: Jul-12-2011 11:49AM
Total posts: 534
Last post: Dec 21, 2013
Member since:Jan 20, 2010
We have been looking for an indoor facility, oh you mean to race on? Well maybe when they finish pooping on the outdoor facility...somebody pass me the Sears catalog.

 

 

TOP racing USA TEAM POWERS  510.388.2535

 

 

Independent Racer J-SPEC carbon sand and seal, Dog hair free since 2011 

 Posted: Jul-12-2011 10:58AM
Total posts: 226
Last post: Mar 4, 2016
Member since:Jun 10, 2004
Yeah, Bill & OD!!! If you can't tune accordingly, find an indoor facility with no wind!!! Wink

 Posted: Jul-12-2011 10:36AM
ABR
Total posts: 2466
Last post: Jan 5, 2016
Member since:May 14, 2006

 

 Goodboy



 




 


 Posted: Jul-12-2011 10:05AM
 Edited:  Jul-11-2011 11:00PM
Total posts: 11711
Last post: Jun 14, 2020
Member since:
Thats funny dust.. I was running my 12th scale modified and it was hooked up everywhere.. my tc 17.5 ran well too. no problem anywhere with grip.

You guys who want perfect conditions have to understand that this is an outdoor track. tune accordingly. or find an indoor facility with no wind.

The dirt flying in from the prevailing west winds from the bay carry dirt and dust let alone all the cars parking in the dirt lot next to the track. Its not from the construction.. as the winds go from west to east.. (onroad track to the offroad track.) kevin is right the winds comes from the west not the other way around.

if you racers set your cars up like reedy race conditions then you'll be having too much bite in the front.

try NOT saucing your front tires first then tune accordingly. soften the rear, raise the front ride height and increase front droop. let the weight transfer to the rear of the car and statically biased to the rear.

take out some of the front toe and turn your dual rate down a few clicks.

its the same track for everyone.. so those who can adapt will be fast those who want the track to come to them will be looking for excuses.

haven't you guys forgotten that old parking lot skills?

The NORCAL guys do a bang up job keeping the tracks in good shape.

Kudos to the norcal management for the killer facility.

Badboy..2011
Bring a new racer to the track! Help grow RC in Northern California!


Badboy.
 Posted: Jul-12-2011 09:16AM
Total posts: 534
Last post: Dec 21, 2013
Member since:Jan 20, 2010
Was really cool to see all the mod tc's out there. maybe the TOP GUN carrot is working mr. binerladin...

 

 

TOP racing USA TEAM POWERS  510.388.2535

 

 

Independent Racer J-SPEC carbon sand and seal, Dog hair free since 2011 

 Posted: Jul-12-2011 07:19AM
 Edited:  Jul-11-2011 11:00PM
Total posts: 2643
Last post: Jul 9, 2020
Member since:
Sorry for the track work happening. I did my best to keep dust down. Im confident the wind was blowing all day away from the onroad but i could be wrong. Anyway your input is great and we only change offroad tracks evey three months like this change. Things will be better from here on out. Maybe a spray before the mains we spray like the CAR days. we are listening and trying. 

 To focus on a positive note we had 110 cars onsite that day and alot of spectators. Onroad made a great showing and some new faces came out.

norcal-hobbies.com / Team Associated / Tekin USA / Protek/  Airtronics/Protoform/Top Notch Paints Mini Mod

 

http://tracks.amainhobbies.com/ Team Associated / Tekin USA / Protek/  Airtronics/Protoform/Top Notch Paints Mini Mod /

 Posted: Jul-11-2011 07:03PM
 Edited:  Jul-10-2011 11:00PM
Total posts: 1497
Last post: Nov 24, 2018
Member since:May 4, 2007

 the only issue with the on road i saw was the pan cars having a hard time getting traction. from the 12 to the 10 scales rear end sashaying.

wait the other issue was the tc mod main to many people crashing and taking out the 2nd place running guy.

 Posted: Jul-11-2011 06:45PM
Total posts: 465
Last post: Sep 19, 2017
Member since:Oct 15, 2003
It's a tricky situation when it's a dual race program for the day. I try my hardest to wipe my feet and avoid the racing line when I absolutely have to step out on the asphalt track and encourage others to do so too.

This public service announcement brought to you by NorCal Hobbies, the Race Place.

 

99% of the time, smooth equals fast.

Call me PacMan, cuz I be eatin' dots all day....

Team KO PROPO/Scooter's Motorworks 

 

99% of the time, smooth equals fast.

Call me PacMan, cuz I be eatin' dots all day....

Team TAMIYA/TRF - KO PROPO - NorCal Hobbies; all day, erryday.

 Posted: Jul-11-2011 06:38PM
Total posts: 1173
Last post: Jul 20, 2016
Member since:Mar 29, 2002
The issue stated was dirt getting on the onroad track.  Some think it's something to address, others don't.  Actually, I feel stupid posting about it since I don't think anything will be done.  The footprints comment was in part because footprints are made by the dirt on people's shoes, and dirt on the track equals less traction.  In reality it was more me complaining about people's lack of respect for the track in doing what they've been asked not to do a hundred times.  Kind of like the guys who piss all over the toilet seat in the bathroom because they are too lazy to pull it up. 

 

www.OD12.com

TOP Racing USA

 

 

www.OD12.com

TOP Racing USA

 

 Posted: Jul-11-2011 06:30PM
Total posts: 465
Last post: Sep 19, 2017
Member since:Oct 15, 2003
Mod TC on rubber tires is already a handful to drive in any condition (and also the biggest on-road class of the day, for the record), and you have yet to hear any of those drivers complain about the track conditions. I personally felt like the track got better as the day went on. By the time the mains rolled around I found my car to be much better than when I first put my car down. In races past I've felt the stickiness on the bottoms of my shoes when I marshall... yesterday I didn't really feel that. I knew the track was off from the get-go. I didn't make enough changes to my car though, because I kept hoping the track would come in more than it actually did. It was a gamble I took that apparently didn't pay off. Oh well.

Maybe some dust got on the track. Maybe it didn't. At the end of the day everyone races on the same tarmac, so what's the big deal? A large part of racing is being able to adapt to the conditions you're given. I've sat through thunderstorms in Oregon and sand storms in the middle of Colorado at karting events, and teams didn't have time to waste energy complaining about how poor the grip was... they were too busy trying to frantically make changes to the karts that they felt would make their stuff faster for their next heat. If your car wasn't on point then maybe you needed to think about your setup a little more or learn to be smoother with your throttle finger, instead of just blaming the track. You can't expect to just put your car down and be dialed all the time.

Real wheels will always find a way to the front. I know my car wasn't dialed, but the guy who won my race (Jesse) found a way to get around the track a few tenths faster than me, so I know there's gotta be something in either my car or my driving that needs to be addressed. Probably both. Case closed. I'll try again next time... even if Eric doesn't spray at all, and Kevin's rebuilding both off-road tracks at the same time.

 

99% of the time, smooth equals fast.

Call me PacMan, cuz I be eatin' dots all day....

Team KO PROPO/Scooter's Motorworks 

 

99% of the time, smooth equals fast.

Call me PacMan, cuz I be eatin' dots all day....

Team TAMIYA/TRF - KO PROPO - NorCal Hobbies; all day, erryday.

 Posted: Jul-11-2011 05:53PM
Total posts: 1906
Last post: Sep 15, 2015
Member since:
Deny what issue???? How many years has it been now that there has been off road tracks neighboring the on road track lol. How rarely does it effect the asphalt. "dirt flying through the air" to me was not the cause of low traction yesterday. 2 different view points is fine, we all want the same thing and that is a good track. You are worried about "foot prints" and such so what else can be said. I actually wasn't even posting towards your thoughts a few posts back, it was carrying over what abr mentioned. Either way I'm done posting on this subject. Let's get ready for this weekend's race. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 Posted: Jul-11-2011 05:26PM
Total posts: 1173
Last post: Jul 20, 2016
Member since:Mar 29, 2002

Maybe you and I were at different tracks yesterday.  It's not "glazed" and you could see the dirt flying through the air, there's no way it doesn't wind up on the asphalt.  I think Bill made a valid point and I agreed with him.  If you want to deny that there is an issue then go ahead, but that way nothing gets addressed.

 

 

 

www.OD12.com

TOP Racing USA

 

 

www.OD12.com

TOP Racing USA

 

 Posted: Jul-11-2011 04:49PM
Total posts: 1906
Last post: Sep 15, 2015
Member since:
Agreed. There wasn't any dust yesterday going onto the on road track. The track was extremely clean and dust free all day long. Yes the traction was horrible. Track looked glazed to me and it felt glazed driving on it, plus there was really no tire wear so do the math. Weather it's too many coats of spray accumulating over the past month or something else being sprayed as of late. No biggie really, it was the first time in very long time that the track was off. It needs a power wash and start from scratch on the prep. Track will be bolted next time out, I know Eric will be on top of it. We are also due for a layout change. Time to step away from the Reedy layout and really change it up out there, maybe retire the dragon's back era and create a new style fast section as we inch closer to the the Top Gun race we should be trying new ideas for layouts. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 Posted: Jul-11-2011 04:27PM
ABR
Total posts: 2466
Last post: Jan 5, 2016
Member since:May 14, 2006

 

 Your confused! ....Bill critical ....Jay compelmentary ....OD where is the love

 Kevin took great strides with dust control. There has been more dust blown on the onroad track on non constuction days than there was yesterday. Traction is tricky bis and could have a variety of conditions. Maybe too much spray.



 




 


 Posted: Jul-11-2011 02:48PM
Total posts: 534
Last post: Dec 21, 2013
Member since:Jan 20, 2010
I thought i had away with words. jeezus

 

 

TOP racing USA TEAM POWERS  510.388.2535

 

 

Independent Racer J-SPEC carbon sand and seal, Dog hair free since 2011 

 Posted: Jul-11-2011 02:41PM
Total posts: 1173
Last post: Jul 20, 2016
Member since:Mar 29, 2002
he's back!

 

www.OD12.com

TOP Racing USA

 

 

www.OD12.com

TOP Racing USA

 

 Posted: Jul-11-2011 02:31PM
Total posts: 534
Last post: Dec 21, 2013
Member since:Jan 20, 2010
Did I misspell EAT ME?

 

 

TOP racing USA TEAM POWERS  510.388.2535

 

 

Independent Racer J-SPEC carbon sand and seal, Dog hair free since 2011 

 Posted: Jul-11-2011 12:30PM
Total posts: 2013
Last post: Sep 26, 2019
Member since:Oct 12, 1999
Points taken.   But be patient gentlemen.   The upcoming nationals will be the biggest event we've done to date.   After that - TOP GUN!

 

 

 

www.norcalhobbies.com

Found 6365 Messages   Previous Set of Pages 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 | 22 | 23 | 24 | 25 | 26 | 27 | 28 | 29 | 30 | 31 | 32 | 33 | 34 | 35 | 36 | 37 | 38 | 39 | 40 | 41 | 42 | 43 | 44 | 45 | 46 | 47 | 48 | 49 | 50 | 51 | 52 | 53 | 54 | 55 | 56 | 57 | 58 | 59 | 60 | 61 | 62 | 63 | 64 | 65 | 66 | 67 | 68 | 69 | 70 | 71 | 72 | 73 | 74 | 75 | 76 | 77 | 78 | 79 | 80 | 81 | 82 | 83 | 84 | 85 | 86 | 87 | 88 | 89 | 90 | 91 | 92 | 93 | 94 | 95 | 96 | 97 | 98 | 99 | 100 | 101 | 102 | 103 | 104 | 105 | 106 | 107 | 108 | 109 | 110 | 111 | 112 | 113 | 114 | 115 | 116 | 117 | 118 | 119 | 120 | 121 | 122 | 123 | 124 | 125 | 126 | 127 | 128 | 129 | 130 | 131 | 132 | 133 | 134 | 135 | 136 | 137 | 138 | 139 | 140 | 141 | 142 | 143 | 144 | 145 | 146 | 147 | 148 | 149 | 150 | 151 | 152 | 153 | 154 | 155 | 156 | 157 | 158 | 159 | 160 | 161 | 162 | 163 | 164 | 165 | 166 | 167 | 168 | 169 | 170 | 171 | 172 | 173 | 174 | 175 | 176 | 177 | 178 | 179 | 180 | 181 | 182 | 183 | 184 | 185 | 186 | 187 | 188 | 189 | 190 | 191 | 192 | 193 | 194 | 195 | 196 | 197 | 198 | 199 | 200 | 201 | 202 | 203 | 204 | 205 | 206 | 207 | 208 | 209 | 210 | 211 | 212 | 213 | 214 | 215 | 216 | 217 | 218 | 219 | 220 | 221 | 222 | 223 | 224 | 225 | 226 | 227 | 228 | 229 | 230 | 231 | 232 | 233 | 234 | 235 | 236 | 237 | 238 | 239 | 240 | 241 | 242 | 243 | 244 | 245 | 246 | 247 | 248 | 249 | 250 | 251 | 252 | 253 | 254 | 255 | 256 | 257 | 258 | 259 | 260 | 261 | 262 | 263 | 264 | 265 | 266 | 267 | 268 | 269 | 270 | 271 | 272 | 273 | 274 | 275 | 276 | 277 | 278 | 279 | 280 | 281 | 282 | 283 | 284 | 285 | 286 | 287 | 288 | 289 | 290 | 291 | 292 | 293 | 294 | 295 | 296 | 297 | 298 | 299 | 300 | 301 | 302 | 303 | 304 | 305 | 306 | 307 | 308 | 309 | 310 | 311 | 312 | 313 | 314 | 315 | 316 | 317 | 318 | 319 Next Set of Pages