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 Posted: Aug-15-2012 08:42AM
 Edited:  Aug-14-2012 11:00PM
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Delta R/C Raceway Drvers Meeting Agenda Welcome Racers, Thank You for coming. Any New Racers or first time to our track? (Make any New people feel Welcome!) Explain: Corner Marshall • Place car on table and go to your corner. (Failure to perform Marshalling duty will result in a 1 lap penalty. Violations will be determined by the Race Director) • Do not watch the race, Watch your corner. •Do Not empeed the progress of Cars on the Track. (Proceed only when SAFE!) • Children under 14 must be accompanied by a parent. • Do Not Place a cornered car in the path of oncoming traffic. (Please pay attention and Safely get to the car in need as soon as possible) House Transponders must be returned at the end of each race. Transponders will have color listed on the Heat Sheet • Yelling at the Corner Marshall's or Other Drivers WILL NOT BE TOLERATED! • No Alcoholic Beverages or Illegal Drugs Allowed!

 Posted: Aug-15-2012 08:24AM
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I am not sure how this will print out but here is a quick list of things to be talked about at a drivers meeting. Any constructive comments or suggestions are welcome.

 Posted: Aug-15-2012 08:00AM
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I am also a ROAR member. However I have misplaced my card. Does anyone know how to get a duplicate? I did try a while ago to go online and do it but just kept running into dead ends.

Lets face it guys. We have one of the best racing facillitys in existsnce anywhere! It is up to ALL of us to use common sense and help make the racing experience as enjoyable as possile for everyone.

Especially the kids! Some of them are the best marshalls!

Teaching them the proper way to conduct themselfs only helps them, but will also benifit all as they become the seasoned racers.

I feel that they (Kids) should absolutly! be out on a reasonable spot with an adult or parent. This does not mean that the parent is to do all of the cornering. More as like a Base coach in baseball. Help them make good decisions.

 Posted: Aug-15-2012 07:05AM
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my ROAR card is in my wallet @ every race weather or not the track owner has insurance . thats the only real way of protecting youre persons , you cant rely on track owner insurance policies

                                                                    

 

.TLR 22 2.0 , TLR 22-4  ,TLR S/C

 Posted: Aug-15-2012 04:51AM
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The layout was GREAT!!!!!!

 Posted: Aug-14-2012 09:33PM
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I didnt have gout assh*le (tony) that night fool!!! I picked a low key spot and still cornered. Pain and all LOL! Hop... hop... hop... flip car over and hop... hop... hop... back to my spot.

BTW... Isaiah got a tooth knocked loose at football practice tonight so he can corner whatever he wants to now!

 

 

 

"Buy once, CRY once"

-MO

 Posted: Aug-14-2012 08:43PM
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Thanks, Hopper. Whatever you decide I am on board.

 Posted: Aug-14-2012 08:23PM
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Tony you are right. I think we used to mention that rule earlier in the summer maybe but have not made any mention of it recently and obviously not enforcing it so no fault of anyone at all. Its targeted toward the very young kids that obviously can not safely be on the track. The kids that do not know to look before running onto the track or that could be more easily hurt by a car or knocked down because they are so small. Your son does a good job imo. Thank you for teaching him to be safe and pay attention.

 

 

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 Posted: Aug-14-2012 08:19PM
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Certain kids do a great job but a few of them are a little too young imo to be out there with any rc cars at all.

The next step may be to have every single racer or person stepping out onto the track to become a roar member. Seems like that is where this discussion is heading.

 

 

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 Posted: Aug-14-2012 08:17PM
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I don't have a problem with the rule. I am not arguing about the rule. Tracks can make any rule they want.

It's just hard to follow it if you were never made aware that it existed. Get it?

BTW, me and my son have raced at NorCal just as much as Delta, and guess what, nobody has said anything when the kids take to the track to turn marshall.

 Posted: Aug-14-2012 08:14PM
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NorCal and Modesto bth have that rule. I've also seen it all over SoCal.

 

Team Schumacher USA 

 Posted: Aug-14-2012 08:03PM
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Anyone is capable of suing the track if they get hurt. I don't see a difference between a parent suing for their kid or an adult suing for themselves. A litigious person is a litigious person.

With regards to holding everyone to the same standard.... what I mean is that anyone , regardless of age or ability should be held to the same standard, so much as that if its obvious that their age or ability cause them to not meet this "standard" then they should be asked to find an appropriate substitute.

If Delta decides they don't want kids to corner for whatever reason, that is fine by me. Me and my son have raced their several times and this is the first I have heard of this rule. It's too bad because I think a lot of the kids have just as much fun cornering that they do racing and there is no better time to teach them the responsibility of cornering. I am 100% in agreement with the safety concerns but I think that is easy to address by not allowing the kids to corner in dangerous spots or during any of the SCT classes.

 Posted: Aug-14-2012 07:49PM
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I'm just trying to protect the owners. I think that a sign should be posted that states like a golf course, participate at your own risk. Or on the sign up sheet a release of liability.

I disagree that a 10 year old kid can be held to the same standard. Not saying they are not capable, just saying that they shouldn't be held to the same standard. I can get mad at an adult for no paying attention but it's difficult to hold a 10 year old accountable.

I also agree with hopper. These guys do a hell of a job running the track for our enjoyment. Anything we can do to help is always a good thing.

 

Team Schumacher USA 

 Posted: Aug-14-2012 07:30PM
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As a parent I take it very seriously as the last thing I want is my kid to get hurt. On the flipside though, I don't think its fair to single out the kids and their parents and make them sign forms or have special rules that apply only to them.

I have seen dozens of adults take their sweet time flipping certain cars but will run, jump and dodge to flip their friends cars. Happens all too often.

ALL corner marshalls should be held to the same standard, regardless of age OR physical ability. That was the point of the sarcasm in my previous post. I didn't mean to offend anyone and apologize if you or anyone else was.

We are all drivers so I think we all understand the importance of the corner marshalls as we all rely on them.

 Posted: Aug-14-2012 07:20PM
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I love the new lay out. Can't wait for sat nie

 

Team Schumacher USA 

 Posted: Aug-14-2012 07:17PM
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Tony.....it's about people paying attention and kids not getting hurt. I can't expect a 10 year old kid or even younger to Pay attention as much as an adult or and experienced driver. Even if he is overweight and gout ridden, which take I take personally. If your going to be a smart ass then it might be better to keep quiet.

I dont move as fast as I used to, but I pay attention. I'm also looking out for track management. The last thing I would hate to see is some idiot parent that allowed their 6 year old on the track to sue the track because they wernt watching out for them.

This should be taken seriously. Every track has rules, they need to be respected. I also agree with Doug about the drivers meeting. Always a great idea.

 

Team Schumacher USA 

 Posted: Aug-14-2012 07:12PM
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Lots of good input here guys thanks. We plan to have a quick drivers meeting before racing starts next time. We will go over the importance of cornering and some quick safety guidelines. We are going to strictly enforce the rule that you must corner marshall after you race. We have some racers that run back to back or multiple classes and rely on us to find people to cover for them which holds up the program. If you can't manage to run 3 classes and marshal after EVERY one then please do not run 3 classes.

Our main concern is safety. We have let a few things slide that maybe we shouldn't. Open toed shoes are not allowed anywhere on or around the track. Its fine in the pits. If you come to race in sandals I hope you also bring someone to corner for you.

As far as speed or ability of the corner marshals goes there is always going to be a wide range. Even the worlds fastest corner marshal is not as fast as NOT crashing. Everyone must remember that if you need to be marshalled then you already have a problem. I know that its not always your own fault but there is no need to rely on them to win a race or tq.

Yelling to get a marshals attention if he/she is looking at the stars or can't see your car in between jumps, etc. may be ok but it needs to be civil and not cussing or screaming. Yelling because he or she is not as fast as you'd like them to be or yelling .5 seconds after you flip over is not going to fly. The flip side would be to please pay attention and give your best effort while marshaling. Always remember that we are adults and we should be setting good examples for the kids and newer racers.

Any other issues regarding marshaling or cornering please bring them up to me this weekend at the track and we will discuss them in person and do our best to find a solution.

On a different not how did everyone like the new layout? I liked it and thought it was a nice change. Watching Atondo whip his scte around was SICK!

 

 

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 Posted: Aug-14-2012 06:44PM
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This is both about safety and learning to be there for your fellow racer as you would like them to be there for you.

I think kids should be with an adult to show him how to do it. Not bashing the kids at all, some are just too eager & run on to the track without looking. Some are throwing rocks and not paying attention. Some are experienced racers who just dont care.

If you are injured or have the gout and can not get to a car as fast as you would like others to respond to yours. You have no business cornering!!!!!!!!! Ask for someone to cover for you.

I really dont think anyone should be expected to do any more or less than they would want done for them.

I agree with BadBoy, The last thing we need is more rules. Lets just follow the ones we already have.

 Posted: Aug-14-2012 06:25PM
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All I / We can do is offer to help more with the marshalling even when its not your/My turn to marshall. 

 
 Posted: Aug-14-2012 04:17PM
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Is this about safety or how fast the kids get to your car? If the latter can we do the same for overweight, senior, and drivers with a bad case of gout? All of them would get to our cars a little slower like the kids.

How about when the parents sign the rules forms that we have a volunteer performing a physical fitness test on each driver. Maybe make sure they can run 10 feet pick up a tire and return to the starting spot in 3 seconds. If not they need to find a qualified turn Marshall to sub for them too.

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