Exactly Kevin....that's my point. Thank you!

If you start in #1 position and I start in the # 7 position. We start the heat. Your in the lead physicaly and I'm catching you but I havent passed you. I'm running a faster pace but still haven't passed you, I will be called race leader not you...correct?

So the leader in the heats isn't the physical leader but the leader on the clock? I'm a little confused.

I noticed it in my heats as well as other class heats. I don't know what to say. Again I wasn't t he only one. error or no error I can show you the lead car can be physically out front and not be called race leader.

You = Racing against your clock

Your clock = Everyone else's Clock

You = Racing against everyone Else

I just proved it with MATH now I win

 

 

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Unless there was an error with the scoring system which I told you MAY have happened, whomever is ahead on track should be in the lead. Simple as that. It sounded to me like your heat may have been started as ifmar by accident which would explain the announcer calling a different leader than who was up front on the track. Again I brought that up to you as a possible explanation but you were not trying to hear it.

You are not dumb. I'm glad you are bringing it up because we want everyone to know exactly how the racing works and I encourage anyone that has questions to come ask me.

 

 

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At least a1/4 of the racers were under the same impression I was. I was the only one that started asking questions.

Sorry bout that.

You are racing the clock not each other in the heats right? The only difference is the start. The clock starts on the tone for everyone. Instead of the clock starting when you crossed the line. So the only diff is the start.

At the end I agree...but during the race that's not exactly true.

Jeez maybe I'm too stupid to race at delta.

Hopper many guys thought we were heads up racing...we're racing the clock not each other in the heats. For instance if you start in number one position, you stay in front for four laps, the guy in 6th position is goin faster than you in the number 1 position. It will take him a few laps to catch you. The director calls the race after three laps, he will say the guy in 6th position is the race leader even tho I'm physically in the lead....right?

That's all I'm saying. That's not heads up racing. That's racing the clock. I heard many a racer confused on the stand saying they were in the lead. In my second heat Rick was in the front physically, but I was going faster laps times and pace, I was called in the lead even tho I hadn't passed Rick yet.

Where am I confused

You ARE racing eachother HEADS UP for 5 minutes. You are stuck on the fact the its 5 minutes instead of 15 laps or whatever. Its makes no difference. If it were laps it would still be the winner did 15 laps in 4 minutes and 10 seconds and the 2nd place did 15 laps in 4 minutes 12 seconds etc.

 

 

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"All I'm saying is if stay in front and not the fastest you may not necessarily win the heat."

I hear exactly what you are saying and you are still wrong. Your statement may be true with ifmar starts but it is false with heads up starts.

 

 

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Instead of calling this racing heats, it should be called racing starts. That's the only difference

I'm not talking about TQ or another heat in the same class. I'm only referring to the heat your in. We're not racing, like in the mains, we are on the clock, where am I wrong.?

I give up your not hearing me. All I'm saying is if stay in front and not the fastest you may not necessarily win the heat. We are not racing in the heats, we are on the clock.

Steve I am sorry but you are still WRONG. I tried to explain exactly how the racing works to you on Friday night and I guess you are still confused. :/

You ARE racing in the heats LOL

If you start the heat in the number one spot and stay in front you should win. HOWEVER, just because you "win" a heat does not mean you TQ. Qualifying order is still based on who does the most laps in a set time. Its the only fair way and this is the way that all rc qualifying is done. You are racing against the guys around you. You however can not race the guys in the heat after you, which is why the "clock" has to come into play. You are confused and I am sorry. Call it what you want. When I am racing directly against the car in front or back of me, I call that heads up racing. I think 99% of the racers on Friday night would agree that we were heads up racing!

Someone else please try and explain this because I tried and apparently failed.

Thanks!

Hopper

 

 

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I agree I love the heads up racing, however let's clarify what this really is. Many including me have assumed that were racing in the heats. We're not, we're still on the clock. The only difference fom before is that we're not calling names. The clock starts at the tone. That means the 1st lap is a short one. Bottom line the only difference from before Is that all at starting at the tone, instead if being called by name. We're on the clock. We re not racing in the heats. For instance if you start in the heat in the number 1 position and stay in front the whole race won't mean you win. Its who is the fastest. It's just like before your racing the clock in the heat not each other.

In addition remember the clock starts at the tone, not when you first costs the line.

KP threw down big time in the main with his MIP equipped scte! I had a hard time all night but found some speed/skill in the main and ended up dominating Ken Johns ultra hard as usual and came home 2nd!

Was great to see Lou and Josh again they were FAST as always! Great racing with you guys and hope you come back soon.

Thanks to everyone who came out it was a great night of racing

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