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 Posted: Jan-27-2012 12:48PM
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JRC is making a really nice direct drive car, but in all honesty, I don't feel D/D is a big enough advantage. it has lower rotating mass, but it also moves the weight drastically in the car. At the end of the day, especially with the available power and consistency of todays electronics and batteries it's kind of a push, and really just a matter of personal preference.

Here's Mike Jeffery's website: he has maybe 10% of what he makes on the site, so you're best bet is to look at the Jeffery Racing Concepts forum on dirtoval.com, or just call him up, he's a great guy to deal with.

http://jefferyracingconcepts.com/ 716 998 7255

The Pemberton car is also on dirtoval.com in the Pemberton Race Works forum. Steve Pemberton is a long time builder of oval Pan cars, and recently bought out T2C. He has added some very cool pieces and is sure to be a player in the dirt oval scene.

 Posted: Jan-27-2012 10:16AM
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Good info!  Would you have links for the JRC and the Pemberton?

The Dynotech interests me because of the transmission setup.. Only 2 internal gears would make for some pretty low rotating mass!


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 Posted: Jan-26-2012 10:28PM
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Joe, The dynotech cars are nice, but the driving style is quite a bit different than a lot of cars, they like to be on throttle a lot. I'm not sure how they would be as a blinky 13.5 car. I ran one for a while in open mod, and it was good on big track, but small track with traffic it was pretty unforgiving. If you do go with one, do the GEN 2 car, they have a slightly longer wheelbase, and revised rear suspension. Chad is no longer selling complete cars to my knowledge, but does still make and stock all the parts.

Kevin can chime in on the hyperdrive more than I can, but from seeing them, they, along with putnam cars (which is what I run), are the top tier cars as far as quality goes, they do cost a bit more than a new CW car though. CW cars are great, dependable and the most used car out there. The JRC lightnings are nice, and the Pemberton SJ-27 seems like it could be made absolutely killer on a flat paved track given the extra offset of that car over the others.

 Posted: Jan-26-2012 10:19PM
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Hey guys one quick thing.Don't forget to bring your ROAR membership current So that you don't have to register on race day and slow down the sign ups.When you guys (the head dudes) decide the oval class stock rules,bodies,wins no wings,ramping no ramping please let us know so we can get our cars together.

 Posted: Jan-26-2012 09:45PM
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What do you guys think of the Dynotech Sprint?  Or Hyperdrive?  Or is it all about the CW cars?

Joe Nolasco
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 Posted: Jan-25-2012 04:37PM
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Well, someone let me know when it's for sure.  'Cause Blake and I will rejoin the club and run as many races as we can....NO BS.  Sprint cars are my R/C unicorn.  I've always wanted to, but never have raced an R/C Sprint car!!

Joe Nolasco
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 Posted: Jan-25-2012 04:31PM
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"Is wingless sprints a go then? "

No, not yet.....from a post below

"The wingless sprints SOUND LIKE pretty much a sure thing...very exciting to have a new class that's sure to entertain!

I'll try to get the Board together this week or early next week to discuss all of these options and give everybody the info they need to make decisions and get ready to race!!!!! "

 Posted: Jan-25-2012 04:22PM
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Joe,

I know your into nastalgia and all, but that cobra should be a shelf queen. Buy a new car!

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 Posted: Jan-25-2012 04:13PM
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www.roarracing.com/?page_id=737    

 

roar approved non boosted esc's\software versions and how to tech

 

awesome Joe the more the better, with the additions and changes with the gp club, oval racing should be fun and exciting again!!

 

 

 

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 Posted: Jan-25-2012 03:53PM
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Cool!  Yeah I'm gonna come out of paved oval retirement for this class!  I have an old C&M Cobra that I might run....or perhaps I'll get a CW ride?

Joe Nolasco
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 Posted: Jan-25-2012 02:56PM
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Joe basic360 rules

dirt oval 2wd 4 wheel suspension type cars

Wingless

13five motor

non boosted (must use current roar approved esc's and non boosted timing profiles that are going to be teched}

2 cell

dirt oval type wheels- foam or rubber- no silicons,caps,absolutly no pancar type wheels ,must be a regular 2" diameter dirt oval tire, like Custom works,TM, BSR, rc4 less,etc..

rest of the rules follow- BOTW Best of the west, and DODC basic sprint car rules

we'll post up more detailed so there are no issues before the first race.

need anymore info ,advice, susgestions,etc.. shoot me an email, or call me

 

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Pemberton Raceworks

 GFRP\Hyperdrive

EA Motorsports

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 Posted: Jan-25-2012 02:55PM
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Joe, all the chassis/body/tire specifics can be found here:

http://www.dirtoval.com/rules/

motor is roar approved 13.5

esc is roar spec approved esc in blinky setting.

 Posted: Jan-25-2012 02:36PM
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regardless what the motor rules are for the VTA I am going to run it. totaly cool class.

see ya at the races.

Dan

 

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 Posted: Jan-25-2012 01:42PM
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Is wingless sprints a go then?  Can someone give me the Cliff's Notes on the rules for that class please?

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 Posted: Jan-25-2012 01:10PM
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Should be a very good gp club year for oval again.. long time overdue!!

 

 

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Independent Racing Products

HOBBYWING

BOCA Bearings

Pemberton Raceworks

 GFRP\Hyperdrive

EA Motorsports

ORCA

FANTOM R1 Wurks

 GRAVITY R/C

 

 TRINITY

MUDDSLIDE MOTORSPORTS

Independent Racing Products

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 Posted: Jan-25-2012 10:09AM
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There is plenty of time as of this moment to allow the people that don't have the correct equipment to buy it. I say - set the rules now and be done. We are not talking about a huge change. It is a motor and esc rule. Most of these systems are relatively inexpensive. This is why this class is gaining poplularity. What will not work is having too many rules or options.

There has been plenty of talk and opinions about this VTA class. I say - let the board make a decision and stick with it. That's what they are there for - right?

If you let the racers decide - this is what you get. Tons and tons of different opinions and no real difinitive decision.

I am with PBR (can't believe I am saying this), but you need to be just like Speedworld and the majority that way you will get more to come. Build it up and then next year you can make slight changes if necessary. However, I believe that Billy's rules at Speedworld have been spot on.

Just my two cents - not intended to offend anyone!

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 Posted: Jan-25-2012 09:59AM
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I't sounds like the brushless and silver can debate will go on for awhile. Maybe the club can try a test run with one car setup with the 25.5 motor and one with the silver can at our first race in March or is it April. Since that is a non points race that would give us a comparison of the two motors. I'm going to talk to Jake and order up some items and start putting the car together.

Gordon.

 Posted: Jan-24-2012 10:01PM
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I certainly don't want to nix any possibilities, but all we need is somebody winning more than once with either set up and the other will feel like they're at a disadvantage. It would be interesting to put both setups in one car and see how they compare.

 Posted: Jan-24-2012 09:15PM
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Since this would be a new class and we are trying to see how much interest there would be for it. Would it be worth looking at running the class with all the VTA rules but allow either the 25.5 motor or the silver can for the first season. I'm not sure how much difference there would be in speed but it might get more people interested. I can see both sides of the issue and this might be the best way to see how the classes works out.

Keith

 Posted: Jan-24-2012 08:46PM
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PBR....yeah, I'm well aware of how to calc that but we would have to have all of the variables done prior to the races...not sure it's necessary. We have several ratios available in our Slash class, hasn't been a problem there.

Brushless is more cost effective long term, silver can short term. Who knows how many we'll have in this class and how long it'll last? To raise the initial investment and monetarily push out the guys who are striving to get the class going doesn't seem fair. It's fiscally easier for an outsider to install a silver can motor and brushed esc (which they probably already have) than for some of our club racers who are there every race to buy into a brushless set up....just my two cents. I'll be in the class either way....

The wingless sprints sound like pretty much a sure thing...very exciting to have a new class that's sure to entertain!

I'll try to get the Board together this week or early next week to discuss all of these options and give everybody the info they need to make decisions and get ready to race!!!!!

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