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 Posted: Jan-21-2017 06:46PM
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Gordon,

I still like the idea of using the 25.5 motor in the novice USGT class. The slower speeds would make the chassis and tires less critical in terms of handling. Also, it would appropriately fill the void left by dropping VTA while discouraging entry by the fast on-road guys.

In terms of portability, a racer would only need to make minor changes to race VTA (or vice versa) and earn useful wheel-time elsewhere.

Speaking of tires, I don't think that going to slicks is a good idea. For one, the racer would have to buy a range of tires to match varying conditions, increasing cost. If the intent is to prepare them for 17.5, then OK, but since they've already built a USGT car, it's more likely they will drop in a 21.5 and move up. Two, and most important, they're not as aesthetically pleasing.tongue-out

Also, I think we should leave the body style open. The best thing about USGT is the vast selection of bodies. The fewer limitations, the easier it will be to find parts.

Your thoughts?

-Frank

 Posted: Jan-21-2017 05:58PM
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The rule for tcs semi is either the round cell Peak racing lipo or the ReedyWolfpack.... only those and u can change the esc plug to a deans 

 Posted: Jan-21-2017 04:18PM
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I second the 13.5 spec class for rubber tire 

 Posted: Jan-21-2017 01:46PM
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Frank; the Novice/Sportsman class is based on the USGT rules, with changes to tires being slicks is the only difference and the body would be a Camero Z/28 Protoform #1544-30.

Kevin; I can not find the rules for 2015 oval classes. Would changing the 10.5 oval cup car class to 13.5 oval cup work?

So far it looks like Tamiya truck has a  good following and Novice/Sportsman class needs some clarification. I am still looking for clarification on discontinued parts on Tamiya's Web site and I will check and see about the battery rule as well.


Gordon. 

 Posted: Jan-21-2017 07:59AM
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W/ the Tamiya truck you can run lipo, -its the same battery we used to run in the original mini M05 chassis (before they upgraded to the M05VII). -its the lipo w/ the rounded corners.  There may be some rules around using a Tamiya plug though? in any case, most definitely lipo.

Blake,
If this is a go then yeah, i'd love to pick up a Truck w/ Bearings + servo, ...etc 

e.

 Posted: Jan-20-2017 11:45PM
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I dare say the truck class is better than mini..........well...ok maybe that's to strong a statement...buuut.....it's pretty freaking awsome that you don't have to have bookoo bucks to compete.  Goofy like a mini for sure but easy enough to be competitive right out the box!
eric at some point we will put packages together to get people started in racing that prob will have a lower cost......still workin on it??   Oh and it's a tt01-E anyone say euro semi drift on non race days?! Oh yeah!!!!

 

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 Posted: Jan-20-2017 09:32PM
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I'm down for some semi truck action!!!!!! So sick!! And we do run lipos... Check out the 2017 Tamiya tcs rules box stock with bearings only. You have to use the esc and motor that come in the box. Just need servo and lipo and your racing!! Me, Matt, Donnie, and Blake all have them and we will be running it at P1HOBBIES In Ukiah 

 Posted: Jan-20-2017 08:54PM
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Hi Gordon,

I've given the new novice-sportsman class a lot of thought since our meeting. There were a lot of considerations to weigh: Simplicity of rules, portability of platform, parts availability, and level of difficulty in terms of speed, handling, setup, and tech inspect.

I propose making the rules identical to USGT except change the motor to latest VTA 25.5 rules and allow the HPI #4790 tire in addition to the REI24025.

I've also reconsidered my position on a sportsman only class. Matt made a good point about expert drivers "training" novice during a race. However, I think the fast guys would prefer to run a 21.5 USGT car anyway.

As for the Tamiya truck. I'm on the fence. I think it will boost the number of entries, which is a great thing, but it feels like another Mini class (except w/ AWD). Also, strangely, they don't appear compatible with LiPo batteries...without cutting the chassis. In fact, the sticker on the chassis says NiCd...yuck! Since this is an ultra low cost class to get into, do you think we should limit it to 6-cell NiMH packs to keep the cost, speed, and variation low.

Everything else sounds good. By my math, that's 14 classes. When you consider "B" Mains, that makes for a full day of racing with little/no room for exhibition classes...which we didn't talk about on Tuesday. We didn't discuss schedule or race locations yet, except for the warm-up race a Les Schwab. Topics for the next meeting!

Regards,

-Frank

 Posted: Jan-20-2017 08:03PM
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spec tires for 13.5 spec... i'm sure we can change tire rule at delta as well,i'll run it by the guy's next outing.
 17.5 sprint car with wings ,i'll run it by craig as well. I'll bring my car and support the class
 please 13.5 boosted for the expert class- we always had 5-7 before the 10.5 mishap past season. just go back to rules from 2015 and prior..
Rubber tire info for truck and 13.5 spec guy's- I had 60 runs on spec tires- the only 17.5 truck to go 70 at delta ,that was on run 55 or so.. and there still just as fast as the 3rd run.. so hell yeah on 13.5 spec going to rubber crc spec tire.

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 Posted: Jan-20-2017 11:19AM
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I'll cast 1 vote for Tamiya Truck!

(by the way the Tamiya Truck kit can be had for about $130 -maybe P1 can hook us all up -includes everything except the steering servo, transponder and battery).

 Posted: Jan-20-2017 11:00AM
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To all those running 13.5 spec oval we are going to test the rubber tire at the warm up race.  We have been testing with great success on rubber tire!  And by "we" I mean my locals (not expert drivers).  With all of them driving the cars we have been playing with this combo for over the last 6 months and have seen excellent results!  From 105deg track temps to 47deg (seriously lol it was cold)  They have been consistently Easier to drive than any foam combo of tires.  Slightly slower but more consistant.  With the success of the Truck class last year it seems to be the next logical step in better club racing, as long as it works on the GP surfaces.  Its at the very least worth a try.  See you guys in march! 

Oh and yes.............SPRINT CARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Motor and battery war??  ehhhhh   I ran off the shelf murphdogg stuff and was the same speed as everyone else at ovalfest in 2016.  Not only that but the top 7 ran nearly the same fast lap it was very close competition.

 

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 Posted: Jan-20-2017 10:21AM
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So far we are hearing from the Oval guys, what about the on road drivers. Any comments adout the sportsman class or the Tamiya truck class? Yeah or not let's hear from you so the board can finalize the classes for this season.

Kevin, I hear you, 13.5 motor, ramped ESC, HD body, winged, foam tire, expert divers only. That about right, oh and weight should be ?? Hopefully I can get the board together to finalize what the members would like for classes this year.

Anything else you want to say, let's hear it.



Gordon.

 Posted: Jan-20-2017 08:15AM
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winged sprint would be awesome.sounds like 2017 is gonna be a blast.

 Posted: Jan-19-2017 07:42PM
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to whom is listening or reading,lets bring them out and see what we get, we have a good core of our local racers that want race there cars, so at the opener MARCH (weather permitting) lets see what we get,also we forgot to mention 4w/d offroad class any intrest?? As mentioned before we will be going up to Winsor LES SCHAWB tire shop,off Shilo Rd. 10 minutes up the freeway from Driven, this track lets you get your car up to some fast speeds. We will discuss more at the next meeting in Febuary

 Posted: Jan-18-2017 05:29PM
 Edited:  Jan-18-2017 05:30PM
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expert pan car class just needs to go back like we had it for many years
13.5 boosted,same rules as we had before, foam tire only.
 Main objective is to get car counts up,with too many options dilutes entrys
Winged sprint 17.5 is going to turn into a motor battery game as usual.but if the body count can support 3 pancar classes and a sprint car class then awesome!
 I should be back supporting pancar classes for 2017, may bring sprint car and help some guy's .
 17.5 truck rubber tire
13.5 spec
13.5 boosted expert class--Gordon same rules we ran for many years in expert class only class that is rubber tire is truck!
17.5 winged sprint
sounds like a good start to 2017 GP oval racing

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 Posted: Jan-18-2017 11:42AM
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 That was a interesting meeting last night. Thank you for coming and voicing your opinion.

Lets start with oval first. The club heard from a number racers that the 10.5 expert class be dropped along with SK car for lack of interest. In there place will be a new class the 17.5 winged sprint car, and 13.5 ramped HD car. The 13.5 HD class will have a choice to run foam or rubber tire at the warm up race. These new classes will hopefully bring some interest back to the oval group. The remainder of the class will be made up of novice oval, 55 bomber, 17.5 truck, 13.5 speck car, 13.5 ramped HD car, 17.5 winged sprint car. This is tentative and depending on how the drivers feel about the changes to the oval class and up to the board.

On road is next. I proposed a new class for the sportsman driver, so that they are not intimidated by racing the expert drivers in 17.5 or in the USGT class. The class will be open to novice drivers who are fast enough to graduate to the next level and sportsman. The class is based on ROAR approved four wheel drive chassis, ROAR approved ESC, a 21.5 ROAR approved motor, ROAR approved hard case battery, TC slicks, the Protoform Chevy Camaro z/28 #1544-30 body, and with a minimum weight of 1380g. The intention of this class is to allow a smooth transition from sportsman to expert class.

Another class up for consideration is the Tamiya truck class. This class is popular with Nor Cal hobbies and is open to all skill levels. The kit comes with a motor, ESC, tires, and a body. The kit is around $200, you may want to buy a bearing set instead of the plastic bushings in the kit. We did not discuss weather this class should be open to all drivers or not. The club decided to drop the F1 class for lack of interest. Mini class, there is a question about discontinued items which I will look into before the warm up race. So, the on road class looks like this Novice on road, 17.5 TC Sedan, Mini, USGT, Spec Rally, and Stock Slash.

Now is the time to voice your oppinion on the classes the club has up for consideration. The 13.5 Ramped HD car, and the Winged Sprint car for the oval class. The Sportsman Camaro car class, and the Tamiya truck class. If you have any thoughts about this season nows the time to say it. We will contiue to discuss these issues at the next club meeting in February. So lets hear from you.



Gordon.

 Posted: Jan-13-2017 07:21AM
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Thanks guys!
(the holiday party RT is what threw me off).

great/glad I asked.
see you guys next week.

 Posted: Jan-12-2017 09:17PM
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Eric, the meeting is at the Raley town center Round Table pizza parlor. Go north on 101 to the Rohnert Park exit. At the lights turn right on the express way. Go about a quarter mile and on your right is the town center.  See you on Tuesday at 7:30 pm.

Gordon.

 Posted: Jan-12-2017 09:03PM
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Raly`s shopping center .east of 101 on the expressway Ronert Part

 Posted: Jan-12-2017 08:26PM
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Eric,

should be in rohnert park!

bryce 

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