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 Posted: May-04-2017 08:10PM
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Dirt oval tomorrow night. Gates open at 4 racing at 7 Track surface has not been changed yet. Will not be changing for the the next Friday race either. The track surface is aggressive. So just about any tire will work. The track will be the same for the race on the 12th. I will be removing a layer of clay after the 12th. and reworking the surface for the summer schedule witch will be posted soon.

Joe

 Posted: Apr-30-2017 05:29AM
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thanks for the vital imformation.Ill let the boys up here know.

 Posted: Apr-29-2017 07:18PM
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Thanks Butch. I'll be there tomorrow and so will John , I'm bringing my 8.5 Outlaw 3 and an Outlaw with 13.5 and transmission so we can have an idea how a 13.5 works with both a trans and DD. Judd

 Posted: Apr-29-2017 10:30AM
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Some of us did some testing last night, here is what we found out:
The track: Joe had the track smooth and dry. As we ran there was a groove of sorts down low, not rubbered up but not loose. After a while there was about a 2 foot "groove". Joe misted a little and basically the same thing happened.

I tested both my loose dirt car with an 8.5 motor and my foam tire Gen6 car with direct drive and 13.5 power. On the Gen6 I softened springs down to about 5lb springs, changed gearing to 17/87 and no other changes. It tested well with offroad tires and at one point with Street Tracs.

Tires: Started with Outlaw car with holeshots in the rear, scrubs in the front, very driveable. Tried holeshots in the front, way too much grip made car loose. Went to dirt webs in front, they work fine, tried rebars in rear, tightened car up a bit in the groove. Tried blockades and Duratrax shotguns in rear, both worked well. I also tried Positrons in the rear near the end of practice and in the groove car was stuck. Gen6 started with dirt webs front and shotguns in rear, car was very good and also very close to speed of the Outlaw. Went to Street tracs all around and it worked well. This was before Joe misted the track. After misting car was not stuck as good.
Basically the pin type tires in the rear work well, bar type will work if track can stay packed or tight. In the front the Dirt Web type worked very well, transistors should work also. Rolland tried some ribs on the front of his nitro car and had it working good. Joe tried some RC4Less rubber tires on his 17.5 sprint and that worked well. Shark was testing some type of pin tire on his pro mod and liked it. So there are possibilities, we need to figure out the track. It was pretty abrasive on the holeshots and bar tires.

 

Butch

 Posted: Apr-28-2017 07:08AM
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THANK YOU JOE !!!! BUTCH LET US RACERS KNOW WHAT TIRES WORK.YOU TO ROLAND....THANKS FOR ALL THE INPUT. BETWEEN AUBURN AND DELTA WE MIGHT HAVE SOME DIRT SLINGING FUN IN THE SUN

 Posted: Apr-27-2017 08:55PM
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The dirt oval is looking good, so were going to have open practice tomorrow from 3 to dark and Sunday from 10 until 5.

 Posted: Apr-27-2017 08:37PM
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yes

 Posted: Apr-27-2017 02:38PM
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all classes open tire?

 Posted: Apr-27-2017 10:30AM
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                                               DELTA OUTDOOR DIRT OVAL 2017

We will be running the track loose dirt starting April 5th. for the rest of the Spring and this Summer.
 
We will run our normal classes.
All classes open tire rule.
Sprint cars can run a 7x7 wing.

Working on getting the track prepped for open practice / track run in. Shooting for this Sunday The 30th.

A Summer schedule will be coming soon.
 
The winter series will stay the same, high bite foam tire.

                                                                                                        Joe






 Posted: Apr-26-2017 11:39AM
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I'd love to see this happen!  Loose dirt is rad!  Also, I don't see any problem with running a DD for 17.5 with Rubber tires.

 Posted: Apr-26-2017 09:08AM
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Will the track be open on Friday or this weekend?

 Posted: Apr-25-2017 09:12AM
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Sherman I don't know that we know what will work at Delta. At Auburn I tried ribs in front and Holeshots in the rear, usually a pretty safe combination. They kind of worked but the car was a handful. I did not get a chance to adjust much as this was a shortened day. I also tried Street Tracs and they did not work at all. Delta may be a different story, you know how dirt is, always different and always changing! Street Tracs would be great since they fit right on without changing much other than gearing, the offroad tires will require at least a longer arm on the left rear and an offroad header for tire clearance. So, it remains to be seen what "works" and what doesn't. And yes, once you go the off road path, there are so many tires/compounds to pick from.

 

Butch

 Posted: Apr-25-2017 07:55AM
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or stick to the street type of tread ???

 Posted: Apr-24-2017 05:41PM
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for Nitro Sprint,what type of tires are working? grooved on front and pins on rear ? or pins all around? there are so muh to pick from

 Posted: Apr-24-2017 01:47PM
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I like the open tire concept, it allows us to find what works for us. The big wing does cover a lot of sins, so that's a plus. As far as shocks, and Joe would have to chime in here, I don't see the track being particularly rough, just not table top smooth. I like the positive attitude and feedback. I think now there are 4 of us that read this thread. 5 if you count Dennis!

 

Butch

 Posted: Apr-24-2017 01:38PM
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Thanks Butch. I can be there on Fridays that I don't have a race on Saturday in Auburn. I think the Nitro Sprints on buggy tires and 7" wing sound great. I Have done testing at Auburn and I know that you and Joe have also and that you can use Buggy tires without too much trouble. My one concern would be What size shocks to use? 

 Posted: Apr-24-2017 11:16AM
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Great to hear Sherman!  I vote for open tire rule, as in any tire that works for you.  I have a set of the RC4Less Dirt Oval Rubber tires, a bunch of old street tracks, "buggy", and big soft foam tires that I would like to try.  A 7 inch wing makes a big difference on Sprint Car, I think it will be fun!

 Posted: Apr-24-2017 10:53AM
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I`m in for some rubber tire NITR SPRINTS , what tires,inserts and rims ?I`m sure we can get more out there

 Posted: Apr-24-2017 09:26AM
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I talked with John Viel about this yesterday and we'd like to run Nitro Sprint cars with rubber tires and 7 inch wings.  We already have what is needed to run these cars, or at least get started, sitting around our shops.  If we could race regularly at Delta for the rest of the year this way without wearing out Joe, I think it would be great.  

 Posted: Apr-24-2017 08:50AM
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Judd, I have only been thinking about the existing Delta Sprint turnout, which is mostly the 17.5 cars. Most if not all of them are direct drive cars, and as such could have a hard time getting the proper roll out on bigger tires. I confess that I don't really know what they run for roll out, but playing with my r/o calculator Saturday with offroad tires, it is possible to attain what I run for 13.5, but there are only a few of those cars anyway. (you and I being 2 out of the 5 that ran the arena). Yes, we could easily run the Auburn outlaw setup, and again you and I could be 2 for that class. I didn't mention it in my previous post, but Joe and I did discuss that on Friday night, the possibility of getting some Auburn folks down here as long as the tracks worked together on schedule.
The 17.5 class should be able to just change tires/gearing to accommodate the offroad tires. The other classes are easy since offroad tires are readily available and they all have gearboxes. Actually, I think Roland was testing his B-Mod with OR tires the first Friday night.
It remains to be seen just exactly what kind of track prep would be needed and what the track would do under race conditions, but this needs to be less of a burden on Joe, and we need to keep racing alive here (in my opinion!) so I'm willing to try anything. There were a couple of sport mod type trucks playing around after Joe kind of "fixed" the track Friday and they were getting around just fine on Bandito type tires, so there is a possibility of this working. And Joe thinks there are already several loose dirt type cars in the area.

 

Butch

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